Tue
Oct
14
- BDSM Scene: Fifty Shades of Grey is abuse, not BDSM.
- Everyone else: Well, it's an abusive BDSM relationship, for sure.
- Kink-shits: No, it's not a BDSM relationship, it's an abusive and unhealthy one.
- Everyone else: Uhh…it's pretty obvious to pretty much everyone that Fifty Shades of Grey is a depiction of the BDSM subculture.
- Kink-shits: That does NOT happen in real BDSM, that's a depiction of abuse!
- Everyone else: So, what does it take for something to be "abusive" then?
- Kink-shits: Abuse is non-consensual behavior. BDSM is consensual. There's a difference.
- Everyone else: How is "consent" the difference between an abusive relationship and any other one? People often consent to all sorts of abusive things, like school, and jobs, and not even a "yes" is always yes regardless of the circumstance—a yes can be forced.
- Kink-shits: Are you saying consent doesn't matter? You're a MONSTER!
- Everyone else: No, we're saying that consenting to a thing doesn't make that thing categorically not-abuse, like if people consent to BDSM activity and were then abused.
- Kink-shits: If they were abused what they consented to wasn't BDSM.
- Everyone else: Um.
- Kink-shits: They may have thought they were consenting to BDSM but they were abused because the abuser was not doing BDSM, they were abusing them.
- Everyone else: It sounds like you're just redefining BDSM to avoid any activity experienced as abusive.
- Kink-shits: Because BDSM is not abuse.
- Everyone else: But that doesn't seem like it would help address consent violations that do occur in BDSM; it doesn't even offer Ana any help.
- Kink-shits: BDSM IS CONSENSUAL.
- Everyone else: "Consensual" encounters can still be abusive.
- Kink-shits: LA LA LA OUR SPECIAL DEFINITION OF WORDS LIKE CONSENT ARE MAGICAL AND COME FROM UNICORN SNOT.
- Everyone else: -_-